2021 talk:Submissions/Automatically maintained citations with Wikidata and Cite Q

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WIKIMANIA 2021 SESSION NOTES

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SESSION OVERVIEW[edit source]

Title
Automatically maintained citations with Wikidata and Cite Q
Day & time
August 16, 2021, 08:10-08:20 (UTC)
Session wikilink
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2021:Submissions/Automatically_maintained_citations_with_Wikidata_and_Cite_Q
Post-session meetup
Building 6, floor 10, table A
Speaker(s)
User:Mike Peel, Andy Mabbett
Notetakers
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Attendees (optional, self-reported)
   Dick Bos
   User:Slashme
   AmandaSLawrence
   User:Mxn
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SESSION SUMMARY[edit source]

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PRESENTATION / SLIDES / LINKS TO MATERIAL SHARED[edit source]

   Slides
   https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2021_-_Cite_Q.pdf
   URLs in slides
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_Q
   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22321052
   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Zotero
   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SourceMD
   https://w.wiki/pi2
   https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/
   en:South Pole Telescope: example of page using Cite-Q


interactive sessions only: ACTION ITEMS / RECOMMENDATIONS / NEXT STEPS[edit source]

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(Q&A only) QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER[edit source]

   Is there a script that you can run on a page that will change all citations with a DOI to a Cite-Q ref?
   Not yet, but good idea. Who would like to work on this with us?
   Will {{Cite-Q|Qxxxxx|pages=xx-yy}} and {{Cite-Q|Qxxxxx|pages=zz-aa}} generate 1 or two footnotes?
   Two
   You have to edit the references in Wikidata, but you use the template itself in main space on Wikipedias
   Yes; Wikipedias and other projects (like Wikispecies)
   Is there any colaboration on making Cite Q one of the future global templates?
   Talking to Amir, yes.
   Are there any plans or ideas about making some bot that goes back to all the existing references to bring them to wikidata?
   No, but you can read them in with Zotero, then generate QuickStatements commands.
   Have you thought about classificating sources? I feel we should have "trust"  machinereadable... a tool https://scite.ai/ has a nice approach
   I see also the project Wikidata mismatchfinder is moving in this direction https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Mismatch_Finder
   This is an issue for Wikidata, not Cite Q 
   Will wikidata recognise duplicates? Especially where there are no DOIs eg for reports?
   Some; for example dulciate DOIs wil trigger a constraint report
   How will wikiAuthors feel they can keep an eye on their sources, i.e. that nobody is changing the sources to nonsense on WikiData?  
   Such changes can appear in their watchlist - it's configurabe, under prefences (tough that probably needs to be made more granular)
   You can configure on en.wp to watch on WD... interesting!



Notetaker's reminders:

   Your job is to capture what happens in each session, to include:
   agenda items
   areas of agreement and disagreement
   questions and thoughts
   next steps or action items, and their owners (if appliccable - for example, in roundtables)
   Ensure that your notes are clear and readable and contain details of the conversation and summaries
   Put all direct quotes from speakers in "double-quotes", with (name) attribution, and don't use double-quotes for anything else.
   Use square brackets to indicate where you are condensing a lot of material and skipping detail.  This could be because the detail is not as valuable, or because you have fallen behind and want to catch up to potentially more valuable material, like a new topic.
   If you miss a detail, use square brackets and a question mark to indicate uncertainty. [?]
   E.g. Team agreed we should implement [?] in Haskell.  We further discussed ways to "extend the outreach" (Alice), and to [synergize the streams?].


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