2023 talk:Scholarship outcomes

Statistical details and individual scores

Hello,

• Can I get my scholarship application score?
• What is the mean, median, standard deviation and the minimum cutoff score per region to qualify? I think that's a reasonable measure of transparency that you need to provide.

Leaderboard (talk) 18:10, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

I fully agree and would also like to get this information including my own score. Zblace (talk) 09:21, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@Gnangarra, would appreciate your reply here. Sdkb (talk) 20:51, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

• The scoring of individuals, is only part of the overall consideration. The scores have no purpose or relevance since that phase of the scholarship process has been completed. In the interest of maintaining harmony across the all applicants I wont be releasing that data and it will all shortly be destroyed in line with undertakings given at the start of the process in regards to privacy of all applicants. Gnangarra (talk) 08:56, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

  @Gnangarra, "only part of the overall consideration"? Well, what is the full process, then? I presumed that the scores were the "phase 2" component from here; if there was something else, you have an obligation to be transparent about it. Sdkb (talk) 14:19, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

  Sorry, for assuming I didnt need to state what has been said on 2023:Scholarships and 2023:Scholarships/Travel Scholarship application/en about each phase in short Trust & Safety reviews as well as budget considerations Gnangarra (talk) 00:47, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

  @Gnangarra:, I don't think it was mentioned anywhere that applicants are not entitled to know their own scores. I agree with @Sdkb: in that transparancy is not unreasonable; what I'm asking for is my scoring data (i.e, which is supposed to be permitted under the GDPR at least), and common statistics. No one's privacy is being violated - not sure what "harmony" is meant here. Leaderboard (talk) 09:44, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

  +1 with @Sdkb. Not willing to do this @Gnangarra? Zblace (talk) 09:51, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

  @Gnangarra:, I'm not trying to create beef with you, but I do expect not to be ghosted. Leaderboard (talk) 13:48, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

  As I have alread explained it was never the intention of the Scholarship team to release the scoring data, I will not be releasing individuals scores. Gnangarra (talk) 13:54, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Distribution per country?

Hi @Gnangarra, I saw that historically there were recipients listed per country. Can you provide that data also so it can be compared to previous years? Zblace (talk) 12:42, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@Gnangarra I see this is ignored. Thank you! Zblace (talk) 09:49, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

CEE fewer people then Western Europe?

I think it is somewhat bizarre that region 3 times bigger in size, with significantly lover average incomes has fewer people. Also why are Wikimania 2024 organizers treated like any other applicants for scholarships? Should they not be from separate quota? Zblace (talk) 19:19, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

An individuals income has no bearing on the scholarship process. Gnangarra (talk) 09:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

@Gnangarra thank you for stating one fact for 1/2 of remark instead of 2 questions.

This kind of interaction is learning opportunity. Zblace (talk) 09:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Like in 2019 there was no special dispensation for organisers of the next Wikimania(at that point it was the 2020 team), everyone was encouraged to apply for scholarships the final decision on 2024 was made after the review processes had started. It is of no surprise that community leaders so invested in the movement that they want to dedicate a significant portion of their lives to hosting a Wikimania do raise towards the top of the applications. I agree that even during a time of financial concerns for the WMF that any identified potential organisers 2024, 25, 26, 27 and beyond should be funded outside the scholarship process. I hope a future budget for the steering committee can be established for this purpose perhaps even consideration for some Steering Committee members being there as well given their role is to oversee Wikimanias and make decisions about future options which currently ironically isnt part of being a member of that committee(I have a COI being a member of that committee). Gnangarra (talk) 11:20, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

@Gnangarra OK we finally agree over something. Please write in your recommendation for 2024 process and structure. I would support that if inline with solving at least this ridiculous Polish participants situation. Zblace (talk) 08:55, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

The Wikimania 2024 COT are based in the CEE not just from Poland, the future aim is to have regional based COT's to reduce the stress on affiliates. Gnangarra (talk) 09:16, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

@Gnangarra can you link to who are those? Zblace (talk) 16:00, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Paltry funding for scholarships

Editors here are invited to join the discussion at w:WP:Village pump (WMF)#Paltry funding for Wikimania scholarships. Sdkb (talk) 11:52, 27 July 2023 (UTC)